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Created by Mark Z (US Airways, Inc.) on 2011-10-03 15:21:11 Back to Topics

Rejection Memo Migration

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-10-04 17:12:26

Hi Mark,

 

Once you have certified your rejection transactions, you can then submit rejections via IS-format files and be able to send all rejections through SIS – this includes rejections of billings from both migrated and non-migrated partners.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ZIEMANN Mark
Posted At: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:21 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

Replied by Christine D (Federal Express) on 2011-10-05 19:21:13
Hi Ashley,
In reference to this same bulletin announcement regarding Rejection billings, it refers to "Passenger and Cargo billings."  Should this be for "Passenger and Miscellaneous billings", (not Cargo) or are you stating that Rejections for Cargo billings will now be accepted via IS-IDEC or IS-XML beginning October 8th?
Thank you,
Christine


From:
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Mark,

 

Once you have certified your rejection transactions, you can then submit rejections via IS-format files and be able to send all rejections through SIS – this includes rejections of billings from both migrated and non-migrated partners.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ZIEMANN Mark
Posted At: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:21 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-10-06 19:34:11
Hi Christine,
 
Perhaps the bulletin was not very clear. This migration approach applies to Passenger and Cargo - but it will only apply to Cargo when Cargo goes live in April 2012.
This migration approach does NOT apply to Miscellaneous billings.
 
Hope that clarifies.
Best regards,
Ashley

From:
Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Ashley,
In reference to this same bulletin announcement regarding Rejection billings, it refers to "Passenger and Cargo billings."  Should this be for "Passenger and Miscellaneous billings", (not Cargo) or are you stating that Rejections for Cargo billings will now be accepted via IS-IDEC or IS-XML beginning October 8th?
Thank you,
Christine


From:
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Mark,

 

Once you have certified your rejection transactions, you can then submit rejections via IS-format files and be able to send all rejections through SIS – this includes rejections of billings from both migrated and non-migrated partners.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ZIEMANN Mark
Posted At: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:21 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

Replied by Ann S (US Airways, Inc.) on 2011-10-10 13:17:01

Hi Ashley,

 

Just to clarify, an airline can choose to migrate Rejection Billings (which includes Rejection Memos, Sampling Rejections Form F & Form XF per ISPG chapter 11) before migrating Prime Billing and Other Transaction Types (Sampling Form C and Form D/E, Billing Memos and Credit Memos)?

 

Jo Ann Schotz

US Airways



From:
Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Christine,
 
Perhaps the bulletin was not very clear. This migration approach applies to Passenger and Cargo - but it will only apply to Cargo when Cargo goes live in April 2012.
This migration approach does NOT apply to Miscellaneous billings.
 
Hope that clarifies.
Best regards,
Ashley

From:
Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Ashley,
In reference to this same bulletin announcement regarding Rejection billings, it refers to "Passenger and Cargo billings."  Should this be for "Passenger and Miscellaneous billings", (not Cargo) or are you stating that Rejections for Cargo billings will now be accepted via IS-IDEC or IS-XML beginning October 8th?
Thank you,
Christine


From:
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Mark,

 

Once you have certified your rejection transactions, you can then submit rejections via IS-format files and be able to send all rejections through SIS – this includes rejections of billings from both migrated and non-migrated partners.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ZIEMANN Mark
Posted At: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:21 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-10-11 09:44:55

Hi Jo Ann,

 

Yes – an airline can choose to migrate rejections in IS-format before migrating prime billings.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: Schotz Jo Ann
Posted At: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:17 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Just to clarify, an airline can choose to migrate Rejection Billings (which includes Rejection Memos, Sampling Rejections Form F & Form XF per ISPG chapter 11) before migrating Prime Billing and Other Transaction Types (Sampling Form C and Form D/E, Billing Memos and Credit Memos)?

 

Jo Ann Schotz

US Airways

 


From:
Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Christine,

 

Perhaps the bulletin was not very clear. This migration approach applies to Passenger and Cargo - but it will only apply to Cargo when Cargo goes live in April 2012.

This migration approach does NOT apply to Miscellaneous billings.

 

Hope that clarifies.

Best regards,

Ashley


From:
Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Ashley,

In reference to this same bulletin announcement regarding Rejection billings, it refers to "Passenger and Cargo billings."  Should this be for "Passenger and Miscellaneous billings", (not Cargo) or are you stating that Rejections for Cargo billings will now be accepted via IS-IDEC or IS-XML beginning October 8th?

Thank you,

Christine


From:
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

Hi Mark,

 

Once you have certified your rejection transactions, you can then submit rejections via IS-format files and be able to send all rejections through SIS – this includes rejections of billings from both migrated and non-migrated partners.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ZIEMANN Mark
Posted At: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:21 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Rejection Memo Migration
Subject: Rejection Memo Migration

 

We have a clarification question regarding a recent bulletin announcement.

 

It was noted in Sept 2011 Issue 4 that carriers can migrate Passenger Rejection Billings prior to migrating Passenger Prime Billings.

 

For carriers wishing to take advantage of this change in policy, we are assuming this means that all rejection billings by that airline would be sent via SIS.   In other words, all rejects would be sent via IS-IDEC, IS-XML, or IS-Web since they have converted with respect to rejection billings.

 

Or, is it possible for that carrier to respond to billings received via SIS by rejecting in IS format, while continuing to reject billings received from non-migrated carriers using old IDEC files?

 

We are assuming once an airline declares it is migrating rejection memos, all rejects would then be sent via SIS, but are just looking for clarification.

 

Thanks!

 

Mark (US)

 
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