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Created by Michael V (EL AL) on 2011-11-22 04:13:28 Back to Topics

Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-11-23 10:21:08

Hi Michael,

 

1.    We talk about billing month when an invoice is created, the billing month of an invoice. Clearance month relates to when the invoice is to be settled (i.e. in ICH or ACH and here we even specify clearance month and period).

2.    No it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-22-11 4:13 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

Replied by Michael V (EL AL) on 2011-11-24 08:22:37

Hi Ashley,

 

I have here two connected questions:

 

(1)

Please consider this scenario:

1.      An airline missed to send an invoice on a certain period   (201203 04).

2.      The airline wants to send that invoice on the next period (201204 01).

 

Given that "it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file" then it means that on period (201204 01) the company will need to send two IDEC files to SIS: one having "billing month" = "201203" and the other having "billing month" = "201204".

The first file will be named: "CIDECF-AAA 201203 04…"

And the second file will be:  "CIDECF-AAA 201204 01…"

Am I right?

 

If the above is correct then same goes for receiving IDEC files from SIS: we should be ready to receive more than one IDEC file in a period.

Is it correct?

 

 

(2)

The ISPG uses the "Clearance Month" while describing the structure of the inbound into SIS Sup Doc files (pp' 12.13 and 12.15) and for the OAR files (pp' 12.19, LEVEL 0).

As there is no "Billing month" in the file names, how the Supp Doc files should be named for the issue raised in the previous paragraph when two IDEC files will need to be sent/received in the same period?

 

Thank you,

Michael




From:
Posted: 11/23/2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

1.    We talk about billing month when an invoice is created, the billing month of an invoice. Clearance month relates to when the invoice is to be settled (i.e. in ICH or ACH and here we even specify clearance month and period).

2.    No it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-22-11 4:13 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-11-24 17:53:57

Hi Michael,

 

If you have missed sending an invoice in 2012-Mar-04, for example, then you can add that invoice to your 2012-Apr-01 billings. You will not be sending two files; you will be sending one file for the current open period, and that file will include the invoice you have missed from the previous.

 

This should answer the rest of your questions.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-24-11 8:23 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I have here two connected questions:

 

(1)

Please consider this scenario:

1.      An airline missed to send an invoice on a certain period   (201203 04).

2.      The airline wants to send that invoice on the next period (201204 01).

 

Given that "it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file" then it means that on period (201204 01) the company will need to send two IDEC files to SIS: one having "billing month" = "201203" and the other having "billing month" = "201204".

The first file will be named: "CIDECF-AAA 201203 04…"

And the second file will be:  "CIDECF-AAA 201204 01…"

Am I right?

 

If the above is correct then same goes for receiving IDEC files from SIS: we should be ready to receive more than one IDEC file in a period.

Is it correct?

 

 

(2)

The ISPG uses the "Clearance Month" while describing the structure of the inbound into SIS Sup Doc files (pp' 12.13 and 12.15) and for the OAR files (pp' 12.19, LEVEL 0).

As there is no "Billing month" in the file names, how the Supp Doc files should be named for the issue raised in the previous paragraph when two IDEC files will need to be sent/received in the same period?

 

Thank you,

Michael

 


From:
Posted: 11/23/2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

1.    We talk about billing month when an invoice is created, the billing month of an invoice. Clearance month relates to when the invoice is to be settled (i.e. in ICH or ACH and here we even specify clearance month and period).

2.    No it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-22-11 4:13 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

Replied by Michael V (EL AL) on 2011-11-27 06:18:10

Hi Ashley,

 

Are there any limitations about the number of invoices for a certain company in one IDEC file?

Is it possible to send more then one invoice number to a certain company in one IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael




From:
Posted: 11/24/2011 5:53 PM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

If you have missed sending an invoice in 2012-Mar-04, for example, then you can add that invoice to your 2012-Apr-01 billings. You will not be sending two files; you will be sending one file for the current open period, and that file will include the invoice you have missed from the previous.

 

This should answer the rest of your questions.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-24-11 8:23 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I have here two connected questions:

 

(1)

Please consider this scenario:

1.      An airline missed to send an invoice on a certain period   (201203 04).

2.      The airline wants to send that invoice on the next period (201204 01).

 

Given that "it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file" then it means that on period (201204 01) the company will need to send two IDEC files to SIS: one having "billing month" = "201203" and the other having "billing month" = "201204".

The first file will be named: "CIDECF-AAA 201203 04…"

And the second file will be:  "CIDECF-AAA 201204 01…"

Am I right?

 

If the above is correct then same goes for receiving IDEC files from SIS: we should be ready to receive more than one IDEC file in a period.

Is it correct?

 

 

(2)

The ISPG uses the "Clearance Month" while describing the structure of the inbound into SIS Sup Doc files (pp' 12.13 and 12.15) and for the OAR files (pp' 12.19, LEVEL 0).

As there is no "Billing month" in the file names, how the Supp Doc files should be named for the issue raised in the previous paragraph when two IDEC files will need to be sent/received in the same period?

 

Thank you,

Michael

 


From:
Posted: 11/23/2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

1.    We talk about billing month when an invoice is created, the billing month of an invoice. Clearance month relates to when the invoice is to be settled (i.e. in ICH or ACH and here we even specify clearance month and period).

2.    No it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-22-11 4:13 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-11-28 10:24:36

Hi Michael,

 

No – there is no limit to the number of invoices you may include in one IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-27-11 6:18 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Are there any limitations about the number of invoices for a certain company in one IDEC file?

Is it possible to send more then one invoice number to a certain company in one IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

 


From:
Posted: 11/24/2011 5:53 PM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

If you have missed sending an invoice in 2012-Mar-04, for example, then you can add that invoice to your 2012-Apr-01 billings. You will not be sending two files; you will be sending one file for the current open period, and that file will include the invoice you have missed from the previous.

 

This should answer the rest of your questions.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-24-11 8:23 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I have here two connected questions:

 

(1)

Please consider this scenario:

1.      An airline missed to send an invoice on a certain period   (201203 04).

2.      The airline wants to send that invoice on the next period (201204 01).

 

Given that "it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file" then it means that on period (201204 01) the company will need to send two IDEC files to SIS: one having "billing month" = "201203" and the other having "billing month" = "201204".

The first file will be named: "CIDECF-AAA 201203 04…"

And the second file will be:  "CIDECF-AAA 201204 01…"

Am I right?

 

If the above is correct then same goes for receiving IDEC files from SIS: we should be ready to receive more than one IDEC file in a period.

Is it correct?

 

 

(2)

The ISPG uses the "Clearance Month" while describing the structure of the inbound into SIS Sup Doc files (pp' 12.13 and 12.15) and for the OAR files (pp' 12.19, LEVEL 0).

As there is no "Billing month" in the file names, how the Supp Doc files should be named for the issue raised in the previous paragraph when two IDEC files will need to be sent/received in the same period?

 

Thank you,

Michael

 


From:
Posted: 11/23/2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

Hi Michael,

 

1.    We talk about billing month when an invoice is created, the billing month of an invoice. Clearance month relates to when the invoice is to be settled (i.e. in ICH or ACH and here we even specify clearance month and period).

2.    No it is not possible to send multiple months’ billings in the same IS-IDEC file.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: VOICHEK michael
Posted At: November-22-11 4:13 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Clearence vs. Billing month
Subject: Clearence vs. Billing month

 

Hi Ashley,

 

Can you please explain what the difference between these two terms is: "Billing Month" vs. "Clearance Month"?

And another question: Is it possible to send billings for more than one month (Aug+Sep) to a certain company, in the same IDEC file?

 

Thank you,

Michael

 
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