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Passenger IS IDEC, element 18

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Created by Pam F on 2010-09-29 17:14:42 Back to Topics

Passenger IS IDEC, element 18

As an an ACH carrier, billing IATA carrier we would use M = ACH Inter-clearance in this field, correct? and if billing ACH carrier we would use A = ACH billings, correct?
 
Also, what is N = no settlement used for exactly?  Why would we submit to green box (SIS) if it can't be settled?  Is it used for direct bills?  For example, if a carrier is removed from ACH membership - would we use it then?
 
 
Replied by James S on 2010-09-30 06:19:58
Hi.
 
Yes. As per chapter 7.2, you would use M for billing ICH members (interclearance), but you might also use M if billing an ACH member using MITA (ICH) rules. Not sure if you do this, but some ACH carriers have bilaterally decided to.
 
For direct billings (e.g. an airline joins SIS but isn't part of the ACH or ICH), you would use B (bilateral).
 
In your example of "removed from membership" (or voluntarily leaving), you would probably use B (as per above). If it's a case of suspension (nonpayment of bills. which I understand the ACH does very infrequently), I would recommend that you continue billing with the SMI of A (or M). This will still flag the invoice for settlement, and your claim would be logged for any legal or bankruptcy claims. I don't know the specifics, but the ICH (and presumably the ACH) do this today with suspended members, in which you continue to submit your claim, and the principle will remain the same.
Finally, N is for no settlement at all, bilateral or otherwise. In sampling today, you send a listing of coupons which looks very much like a standard Pax invoice (coupons, taxes, a total, etc) which is purely information, and where there is no settlement at all. N is used for this, and similar occasions that may occur in the future.
 
Hope that helps,
James
Replied by Benjamin R (Lufthansa) on 2010-10-15 08:11:03
Hi James,
 
does this mean that we can transmit IS-IDECs to a non-ICH carrier with settlement method indicator "B" by using SIS as plattform to do so?
And if so, will SIS downconvert the IS-IDEC to old IDEC or the non-ICH member needs to download the data from IS-Web?
 
Please advice. Thanks, Benjamin


From: IATA
Posted: Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:19 AM
Subject: Passenger IS IDEC, element 18

Hi.
 
Yes. As per chapter 7.2, you would use M for billing ICH members (interclearance), but you might also use M if billing an ACH member using MITA (ICH) rules. Not sure if you do this, but some ACH carriers have bilaterally decided to.
 
For direct billings (e.g. an airline joins SIS but isn't part of the ACH or ICH), you would use B (bilateral).
 
In your example of "removed from membership" (or voluntarily leaving), you would probably use B (as per above). If it's a case of suspension (nonpayment of bills. which I understand the ACH does very infrequently), I would recommend that you continue billing with the SMI of A (or M). This will still flag the invoice for settlement, and your claim would be logged for any legal or bankruptcy claims. I don't know the specifics, but the ICH (and presumably the ACH) do this today with suspended members, in which you continue to submit your claim, and the principle will remain the same.
Finally, N is for no settlement at all, bilateral or otherwise. In sampling today, you send a listing of coupons which looks very much like a standard Pax invoice (coupons, taxes, a total, etc) which is purely information, and where there is no settlement at all. N is used for this, and similar occasions that may occur in the future.
 
Hope that helps,
James
 
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