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Created by Binbin D on 2010-11-17 22:35:21 Back to Topics

How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Alex S on 2010-11-23 18:48:24
This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Benjamin R (Lufthansa) on 2010-11-29 03:52:11
The correction should be extended to Elements 19, 23, 27, 29 and 31 which also refer to Coupon Breakdown Record.


From:
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:48 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Wang Q on 2011-02-08 21:47:37
Hi,
 
We still don't understand clearly from ISPG v3.1 due to this case.
When we raised a BM without couponbreakdown records, however total tax amount billed has a non zero value, how shall we provide tax breakdown records? Does it mean we are not to provide?
 
Tks!


From:
Posted: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-03-07 10:18:47

Hi,

 

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this question.

 

If a BM is raised without coupon breakdown and if the BM has tax amounts then there is no need to provide tax breakdown. Moreover as per the defined record structure arrangement, the carrier is not  permitted to supply tax breakdowns in such cases as the Tax Breakdowns are only linked to the Coupon records.

 

This will be made more explicit in the next ISPG release.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Hi,
 
We still don't understand clearly from ISPG v3.1 due to this case.
When we raised a BM without couponbreakdown records, however total tax amount billed has a non zero value, how shall we provide tax breakdown records? Does it mean we are not to provide?
 
Tks!


From:
Posted: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Claudia L (Lufthansa) on 2011-11-18 07:34:17
Hi IATA.
 
We do not think this is in line with SIS principles. All taxes should always be reported with tax breakdown.
 
Otherwise this might be a loophole for all BM, the carrier could just report all BM without coupon breakdown hence does not need to provide tax breakdowns for BM at all.
 
SIS SG discussed this situation and dismissed a change of IS-IDEC structure (to add tax breakdown to memo level) because there was no situation envisioned where tax without coupon breakdown could apply.
Therefore, in our opinion BM without coupon breakdown should not be allowed to have tax amounts at all.
 
Please re-discuss this decision.
 
Thanks
Claudia (LH)

From:
Posted: 3/7/2011 10:18 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Hi,

 

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this question.

 

If a BM is raised without coupon breakdown and if the BM has tax amounts then there is no need to provide tax breakdown. Moreover as per the defined record structure arrangement, the carrier is not  permitted to supply tax breakdowns in such cases as the Tax Breakdowns are only linked to the Coupon records.

 

This will be made more explicit in the next ISPG release.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Hi,
 
We still don't understand clearly from ISPG v3.1 due to this case.
When we raised a BM without couponbreakdown records, however total tax amount billed has a non zero value, how shall we provide tax breakdown records? Does it mean we are not to provide?
 
Tks!


From:
Posted: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-11-18 14:08:30

Hi Claudia,

 

As this is relating to the SIS live system, I would like to ask that you create a SIS Help Desk case. This way it can be discussed within SIS Operations via the Change Management Process.

 

Thanks,

Ashley

 

From: LINGENS Claudia
Posted At: November-18-11 7:34 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Rules, Policies, & Codes
Conversation: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

 

Hi IATA.

 

We do not think this is in line with SIS principles. All taxes should always be reported with tax breakdown.

 

Otherwise this might be a loophole for all BM, the carrier could just report all BM without coupon breakdown hence does not need to provide tax breakdowns for BM at all.

 

SIS SG discussed this situation and dismissed a change of IS-IDEC structure (to add tax breakdown to memo level) because there was no situation envisioned where tax without coupon breakdown could apply.

Therefore, in our opinion BM without coupon breakdown should not be allowed to have tax amounts at all.

 

Please re-discuss this decision.

 

Thanks

Claudia (LH)


From:
Posted: 3/7/2011 10:18 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Hi,

 

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this question.

 

If a BM is raised without coupon breakdown and if the BM has tax amounts then there is no need to provide tax breakdown. Moreover as per the defined record structure arrangement, the carrier is not  permitted to supply tax breakdowns in such cases as the Tax Breakdowns are only linked to the Coupon records.

 

This will be made more explicit in the next ISPG release.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Hi,

 

We still don't understand clearly from ISPG v3.1 due to this case.

When we raised a BM without couponbreakdown records, however total tax amount billed has a non zero value, how shall we provide tax breakdown records? Does it mean we are not to provide?

 

Tks!


From:
Posted: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

This is an error which will be fixed in the next ISPG release.


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: How to provide Tax breakdown of BM(PAX question)

Refer to SFI 22 and 23, element 21 ‘Total Tax Amount Billed / Credited’, validation for this element is ‘Should be equal to the sum of Tax Amount Billed/Credited in Coupon Breakdown Record(s)’.

If we raise a BM without coupon breakdown, how shall we provide Tax breakdown if BM has Total Tax Amount? Can we NOT to provide tax breakdown in this case?

 
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