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How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

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Created by Binbin D (Accounting Centre of Chin) on 2010-12-20 02:36:20 Back to Topics

How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

If a billing entity use BM to bill FIM (SFI=22, element 15,16), shall we, as the billed entity, reject this BM by source code 44 or source code 4?
If we use source code 44, does SIS require that the previouse billing (which is being rejected) must be of source code 14?
If we use source code 4, how can we provide OAL's BM number as well as the FIM number in issue?  Because in SFI=21, element 18 is for both BM number and FIM number.
 
Please advise how to reject FIM originally billed by a BM.
Thanks
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-01-06 09:06:39
Hi,
 
If a BM is raised for a FIM, it should be rejected under Source code 4 or 44.

There is no check in SIS which mandates that only Source Code 14 precedes Source Code 44.

If Source Code 4 is used for rejecting the BM, the BM number is to be specified in SFI 21 element no 18.

Best Regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:36 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

If a billing entity use BM to bill FIM (SFI=22, element 15,16), shall we, as the billed entity, reject this BM by source code 44 or source code 4?
If we use source code 44, does SIS require that the previouse billing (which is being rejected) must be of source code 14?
If we use source code 4, how can we provide OAL's BM number as well as the FIM number in issue?  Because in SFI=21, element 18 is for both BM number and FIM number.
 
Please advise how to reject FIM originally billed by a BM.
Thanks
Replied by Benjamin R (Lufthansa) on 2011-01-06 09:56:57
Dear All,
 
I would like to join this discussion as from LH point of view there are two crucial things to add to it:
 
1. A BM shall not be used to debit FIMs. Why you won't debit the FIM on SC 14 in the first place?
2. From the business perspective a SC shall only have one logical succesor. Since the billing object is the Billing Memo, not the FIM, it can be only 04, not 04 or 44.
 
Please consider. Thanks and regards,
Benjamin (LH)

From:
Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

Hi,
 
If a BM is raised for a FIM, it should be rejected under Source code 4 or 44.

There is no check in SIS which mandates that only Source Code 14 precedes Source Code 44.

If Source Code 4 is used for rejecting the BM, the BM number is to be specified in SFI 21 element no 18.

Best Regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:36 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

If a billing entity use BM to bill FIM (SFI=22, element 15,16), shall we, as the billed entity, reject this BM by source code 44 or source code 4?
If we use source code 44, does SIS require that the previouse billing (which is being rejected) must be of source code 14?
If we use source code 4, how can we provide OAL's BM number as well as the FIM number in issue?  Because in SFI=21, element 18 is for both BM number and FIM number.
 
Please advise how to reject FIM originally billed by a BM.
Thanks
Replied by Wang Q on 2011-01-18 22:11:30
HI
 
It is really difficult to distinguish the BM under FIMs or other coupons. Just like Prime Billing(SC14) and Rejection(SC44,45,46), FIMs are all have a single SC to seperate from other document type.
We are appreciated to suggest that using a new single SC under BM due FIM.
 
Thanks


From:
Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

Hi,
 
If a BM is raised for a FIM, it should be rejected under Source code 4 or 44.

There is no check in SIS which mandates that only Source Code 14 precedes Source Code 44.

If Source Code 4 is used for rejecting the BM, the BM number is to be specified in SFI 21 element no 18.

Best Regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:36 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

If a billing entity use BM to bill FIM (SFI=22, element 15,16), shall we, as the billed entity, reject this BM by source code 44 or source code 4?
If we use source code 44, does SIS require that the previouse billing (which is being rejected) must be of source code 14?
If we use source code 4, how can we provide OAL's BM number as well as the FIM number in issue?  Because in SFI=21, element 18 is for both BM number and FIM number.
 
Please advise how to reject FIM originally billed by a BM.
Thanks
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-02-02 17:08:24
Hi all,
 
Prime Billing of FIMs should be done under SC 14 and their rejections should be done under SC 44/45/46. Source Code 04 should not be used for prime billings of FIMs in general.

Best regards

From: Lufthansa
Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:56 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

Dear All,
 
I would like to join this discussion as from LH point of view there are two crucial things to add to it:
 
1. A BM shall not be used to debit FIMs. Why you won't debit the FIM on SC 14 in the first place?
2. From the business perspective a SC shall only have one logical succesor. Since the billing object is the Billing Memo, not the FIM, it can be only 04, not 04 or 44.
 
Please consider. Thanks and regards,
Benjamin (LH)

From:
Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

Hi,
 
If a BM is raised for a FIM, it should be rejected under Source code 4 or 44.

There is no check in SIS which mandates that only Source Code 14 precedes Source Code 44.

If Source Code 4 is used for rejecting the BM, the BM number is to be specified in SFI 21 element no 18.

Best Regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:36 AM
Subject: How to reject a BM of FIM billing?

If a billing entity use BM to bill FIM (SFI=22, element 15,16), shall we, as the billed entity, reject this BM by source code 44 or source code 4?
If we use source code 44, does SIS require that the previouse billing (which is being rejected) must be of source code 14?
If we use source code 4, how can we provide OAL's BM number as well as the FIM number in issue?  Because in SFI=21, element 18 is for both BM number and FIM number.
 
Please advise how to reject FIM originally billed by a BM.
Thanks
 
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