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Created by Myungsuk O (JINAIR) on 2011-09-08 21:14:10 Back to Topics

MITA? ICH? SIS?

Dear SIS,

 

We have some questions here, please check and advise.

 

Heres our situation.

 

We JINAIR are going to be withdrawn ICH membership soon because of our internal reason.

The reason is this

Jin Air Co. Ltd  LJ/718/-   is a party to MITA since 16/Dec/2009. Since joining date LJ/718/-  had no interline activity therefore no reason to continue with MITA Participation.  

So our MITA participation will be withdrawn.

 

But, one of the requirements of a Non-IATA Member airline(LJ is non-IATA member) being able to join and maintain ICH participation is that we actually has to be a MITA participant.

So ICH membership will be lost either. 

 

Now question,

 

Q1. Does SIS sign up also need MITA participation first?

As I know about SIS,

 any airline is eligible to join SIS, whether or not they are a member of a clearing house, and non-airlines may also join SIS provided that they do business with airlines.

 

 

If so, next question

 

Q2.

We JINAIR will be lost ICH membership but if we sign up SIS then we can use IS-WEB instead right?

 

As I know, after Go-live, IS-WEB will show all corresponding transactions even the claim is issued by ICH.

Is this correct?

 

What I mean is,

For example

If I claim A invoice by ICH on Period 01 OCT then does this invoice(or amount) also shown in IS-WEB?

 

 

 

Best regards,
Myung-suk Oh

JINAIR

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-09-09 16:19:22

Dear Myung-Suk,

 

You can have codes without being in MITA, as long as you meet the criteria for codes (which include having published schedules, issue standard accountable documents, etc). As long as you retain the codes, you can stay in SIS and settle on a bilateral basis.

 

In addition, if you are not in ICH it means that you will see nothing related to ICH, nor will any ICH members route any transactions to you through the SMI=I. Everything would be SMI=B. IS-Web would show all invoice details for you exactly as before, but settlement would only be done via bilateral bank transfer.

 

Hope that clarifies.

Best regards,

Ashley

 

 

From: OH Myungsuk [mailto:msoh@jinair.com]
Posted At: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:14 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Other Topics
Conversation: MITA? ICH? SIS?
Subject: MITA? ICH? SIS?

 

Dear SIS,

 

We have some questions here, please check and advise.

 

Heres our situation.

 

We JINAIR are going to be withdrawn ICH membership soon because of our internal reason.

The reason is this

Jin Air Co. Ltd  LJ/718/-   is a party to MITA since 16/Dec/2009. Since joining date LJ/718/-  had no interline activity therefore no reason to continue with MITA Participation.  

So our MITA participation will be withdrawn.

 

But, one of the requirements of a Non-IATA Member airline(LJ is non-IATA member) being able to join and maintain ICH participation is that we actually has to be a MITA participant.

So ICH membership will be lost either. 

 

Now question,

 

Q1. Does SIS sign up also need MITA participation first?

As I know about SIS,

 any airline is eligible to join SIS, whether or not they are a member of a clearing house, and non-airlines may also join SIS provided that they do business with airlines.

 

 

If so, next question

 

Q2.

We JINAIR will be lost ICH membership but if we sign up SIS then we can use IS-WEB instead right?

 

As I know, after Go-live, IS-WEB will show all corresponding transactions even the claim is issued by ICH.

Is this correct?

 

What I mean is,

For example

If I claim A invoice by ICH on Period 01 OCT then does this invoice(or amount) also shown in IS-WEB?

 

 

 

Best regards,
Myung-suk Oh

JINAIR

Replied by Myungsuk O (JINAIR) on 2011-09-14 01:02:45
Oh~~ yes,,, you are correct.
Once we lose ICH membership, no ICH member can claim to us via ICH. Hence, it will not be shown IS-WEB either. Right?
 
I will just concentrate on set up SIS then.
 
 
Thank you for your reply.
Best regards,
Myungsuk Oh
JINAIR

From:
Posted: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: MITA? ICH? SIS?

Dear Myung-Suk,

 

You can have codes without being in MITA, as long as you meet the criteria for codes (which include having published schedules, issue standard accountable documents, etc). As long as you retain the codes, you can stay in SIS and settle on a bilateral basis.

 

In addition, if you are not in ICH it means that you will see nothing related to ICH, nor will any ICH members route any transactions to you through the SMI=I. Everything would be SMI=B. IS-Web would show all invoice details for you exactly as before, but settlement would only be done via bilateral bank transfer.

 

Hope that clarifies.

Best regards,

Ashley

 

 

From: OH Myungsuk [mailto:msoh@jinair.com]
Posted At: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:14 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Other Topics
Conversation: MITA? ICH? SIS?
Subject: MITA? ICH? SIS?

 

Dear SIS,

 

We have some questions here, please check and advise.

 

Heres our situation.

 

We JINAIR are going to be withdrawn ICH membership soon because of our internal reason.

The reason is this

Jin Air Co. Ltd  LJ/718/-   is a party to MITA since 16/Dec/2009. Since joining date LJ/718/-  had no interline activity therefore no reason to continue with MITA Participation.  

So our MITA participation will be withdrawn.

 

But, one of the requirements of a Non-IATA Member airline(LJ is non-IATA member) being able to join and maintain ICH participation is that we actually has to be a MITA participant.

So ICH membership will be lost either. 

 

Now question,

 

Q1. Does SIS sign up also need MITA participation first?

As I know about SIS,

 any airline is eligible to join SIS, whether or not they are a member of a clearing house, and non-airlines may also join SIS provided that they do business with airlines.

 

 

If so, next question

 

Q2.

We JINAIR will be lost ICH membership but if we sign up SIS then we can use IS-WEB instead right?

 

As I know, after Go-live, IS-WEB will show all corresponding transactions even the claim is issued by ICH.

Is this correct?

 

What I mean is,

For example

If I claim A invoice by ICH on Period 01 OCT then does this invoice(or amount) also shown in IS-WEB?

 

 

 

Best regards,
Myung-suk Oh

JINAIR

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-09-14 16:14:37

Hi Myungsuk,

 

Yes – correct, if no ICH member can bill you via the ICH, then no invoices can come to you with SMI = I, hence no such invoices in IS-Web also.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 
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