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Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

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Created by Benjamin R (Lufthansa) on 2011-02-22 05:07:28 Back to Topics

Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

Hi all.
 
In the IS-IDEC format for form F/xF the layout is the same like for rejection memos in NS. This means there is a rejection memo number which has a coupon breakdown. From our understanding the RAM says that in Sampling form F/xF each coupon has to be a separate invoice position, i.e. rejection memo.
Will SIS validate that rejection memos in Form F/xF do only have one coupon in the coupon breakdown?
 
Please advise.
 
Thanks
Benjamin (LH)
Replied by Debby W (Navitaire) on 2011-03-08 12:55:28
Our understanding is the form F/XF would be at the reject memo level - this is where the sample constant is applied. Each coupon rejected would have a coupon level breakdown. All coupons would roll up to the memo level and have the sample constant applied. This seems cleaner than having multiple Form F/XF records with individual cpn level breakdown (containing only ONE cpn). Can you advise if our understanding is correct or if we must have 1 cpn breakdown per memo. Debby Willmus, Navitaire:
Replied by Claudia L (Lufthansa) on 2011-03-09 04:31:34
Hi IATA.
 
please advise on your view on things, this is important for our technical data structure.
 
Business Example:
Form F contains cpn 1111, cpn 2222, and cpn 3333
 
IS-IDEC layout version 1:
SFI 10 invoice (e.g. Form F)
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 1111
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 2222
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 3333
SFI 30 SC totals
SFI 40 Invoice totals
 
IS-IDEC layout version 2:
SFI 10 invoice (e.g. Form F)
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 1111
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 2222
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 3333
SFI 30 SC totals
SFI 40 Invoice totals
 
Thanks
Claudia (LH)
 

From:
Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:55 PM
Subject: Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

Our understanding is the form F/XF would be at the reject memo level - this is where the sample constant is applied. Each coupon rejected would have a coupon level breakdown. All coupons would roll up to the memo level and have the sample constant applied. This seems cleaner than having multiple Form F/XF records with individual cpn level breakdown (containing only ONE cpn). Can you advise if our understanding is correct or if we must have 1 cpn breakdown per memo. Debby Willmus, Navitaire:
Replied by Claudia L (Lufthansa) on 2011-04-07 05:49:01
Hi IATA.
 
This item is still open. Please advise.
 
Thanks
Claudia (LH)
Replied by Mamta S (NIIT Technologies) on 2011-06-03 01:44:02

Hi IATA,

 

why are you not answering such important question? How should we develop Form F and XF if we don't get feedback on such a general question?

Please advice asap!

 

Thanks

Oliver (NIIT)

 


From: Lufthansa
Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:49 AM
Subject: Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

Hi IATA.
 
This item is still open. Please advise.
 
Thanks
Claudia (LH)
Replied by Claudia L (Lufthansa) on 2011-06-06 03:57:49
Hi all,
 
in a meeting in May 2011 IATA replied that version 1 does apply.
 
Best regards
Claudia (LH)

From: Lufthansa
Posted: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

Hi IATA.
 
please advise on your view on things, this is important for our technical data structure.
 
Business Example:
Form F contains cpn 1111, cpn 2222, and cpn 3333
 
IS-IDEC layout version 1:
SFI 10 invoice (e.g. Form F)
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 1111
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 2222
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 3333
SFI 30 SC totals
SFI 40 Invoice totals
 
IS-IDEC layout version 2:
SFI 10 invoice (e.g. Form F)
  SFI 21 RM
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 1111
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 2222
    SFI 32 RM cpn breakdown cpn 3333
SFI 30 SC totals
SFI 40 Invoice totals
 
Thanks
Claudia (LH)
 

From:
Posted: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:55 PM
Subject: Valdiation for Form F/xF: one coupon per RJM

Our understanding is the form F/XF would be at the reject memo level - this is where the sample constant is applied. Each coupon rejected would have a coupon level breakdown. All coupons would roll up to the memo level and have the sample constant applied. This seems cleaner than having multiple Form F/XF records with individual cpn level breakdown (containing only ONE cpn). Can you advise if our understanding is correct or if we must have 1 cpn breakdown per memo. Debby Willmus, Navitaire:
 
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