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The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

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Created by Binbin D (Accounting Centre of Chin) on 2011-03-11 03:11:35 Back to Topics

The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Hi, IATA,

I have following concerns.

1.       What is the migration rule for Misc? One category by one category, or all categories at one time for a party?

2.       If SIS allows a billing entity migrate to SIS only some Charge Categories from their whole business, it may cause difficulties for the billed entity in auditing the billing, especially to prevent duplicate billings. In SIS environment, MISC charges are in a rather structured organization, while in paper world, they are very different and mostly at the discretions of the billing entity. Dispute may arise in terms of things like what charges shall go to what category and if that category has been migrated or has not, and so on. It will increase the complexity for both billing entity and billed entity.

So, we suggest a SIS participant should be required to migrate all their MISC charges (at least, all primary billings) at one time.

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-03-21 17:14:28

Dear Binbin,

 

In Passenger and Cargo, carriers need to migrate AR and AP together.

 

Due to the fact that many carriers have only/more AP than AR; and also because some Miscellaneous AR are much more difficult than others – we are discussing this topic internally. We will get back to you at the beginning of April on this subject.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Hi, IATA,

I have following concerns.

1.       What is the migration rule for Misc? One category by one category, or all categories at one time for a party?

2.       If SIS allows a billing entity migrate to SIS only some Charge Categories from their whole business, it may cause difficulties for the billed entity in auditing the billing, especially to prevent duplicate billings. In SIS environment, MISC charges are in a rather structured organization, while in paper world, they are very different and mostly at the discretions of the billing entity. Dispute may arise in terms of things like what charges shall go to what category and if that category has been migrated or has not, and so on. It will increase the complexity for both billing entity and billed entity.

So, we suggest a SIS participant should be required to migrate all their MISC charges (at least, all primary billings) at one time.

Replied by Yusuf D (THY - Turkish Airlines) on 2011-04-14 03:01:59
Dear Ashley,
 
Is this topic finalized ? Is it possible if migrating only MISC-AR and continuing as a non-migrated for MISC-AP for a while ?
Best regards.
Yusuf

From:
Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 5:14 PM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Dear Binbin,

 

In Passenger and Cargo, carriers need to migrate AR and AP together.

 

Due to the fact that many carriers have only/more AP than AR; and also because some Miscellaneous AR are much more difficult than others – we are discussing this topic internally. We will get back to you at the beginning of April on this subject.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Hi, IATA,

I have following concerns.

1.       What is the migration rule for Misc? One category by one category, or all categories at one time for a party?

2.       If SIS allows a billing entity migrate to SIS only some Charge Categories from their whole business, it may cause difficulties for the billed entity in auditing the billing, especially to prevent duplicate billings. In SIS environment, MISC charges are in a rather structured organization, while in paper world, they are very different and mostly at the discretions of the billing entity. Dispute may arise in terms of things like what charges shall go to what category and if that category has been migrated or has not, and so on. It will increase the complexity for both billing entity and billed entity.

So, we suggest a SIS participant should be required to migrate all their MISC charges (at least, all primary billings) at one time.

Replied by Lori L (Delta Air Lines) on 2011-04-14 13:59:30
We would also like to know in PAX if you could migrate on the Accts Payable side (receive IS-IDEC) so that we can store all the enhanced data while our Receivables side is getting ready to migrate? 


From:
Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:01 AM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Dear Ashley,
 
Is this topic finalized ? Is it possible if migrating only MISC-AR and continuing as a non-migrated for MISC-AP for a while ?
Best regards.
Yusuf

From:
Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 5:14 PM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Dear Binbin,

 

In Passenger and Cargo, carriers need to migrate AR and AP together.

 

Due to the fact that many carriers have only/more AP than AR; and also because some Miscellaneous AR are much more difficult than others – we are discussing this topic internally. We will get back to you at the beginning of April on this subject.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Hi, IATA,

I have following concerns.

1.       What is the migration rule for Misc? One category by one category, or all categories at one time for a party?

2.       If SIS allows a billing entity migrate to SIS only some Charge Categories from their whole business, it may cause difficulties for the billed entity in auditing the billing, especially to prevent duplicate billings. In SIS environment, MISC charges are in a rather structured organization, while in paper world, they are very different and mostly at the discretions of the billing entity. Dispute may arise in terms of things like what charges shall go to what category and if that category has been migrated or has not, and so on. It will increase the complexity for both billing entity and billed entity.

So, we suggest a SIS participant should be required to migrate all their MISC charges (at least, all primary billings) at one time.

Replied by Russell F on 2011-05-12 05:14:08
Is there an update on this please? Russell. BD
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-05-12 11:01:54
Dear all,

After internal discussion on this subject regarding the migration of AP and AR, we expect and encourage everyone to migrate both at the same time. However, we will not enforce this as a rule. Having said that, the option for migrated carriers to block F12 claims 12 months after go-live still applies and we would like to ask that you take note of this.

Best regards


From:
Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:14 AM
Subject: The migration rule and it’s impact(MISC)

Is there an update on this please? Russell. BD
 
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