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Created by Hyoman L (Korean Air) on 2011-01-05 19:52:42 Back to Topics

Mail detail Mandatory item



Question regarding Misc.- Mail detail mandatory item especially Bag number.
 
1. Does Bag number means UPU S9 Identifier?
    (UPU S9  sample : USLAXTUSSELTA7D01202163900075)
 
2. If so, usually those data is not available except USPS mail.
    Is it OK to fill Bag Number as zero?
 
3. In most case, there are more than one mail bag under one mail number.
   Is it allowed to have more than one Bag number under one mail detail ?
  
Thanks in advance 
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-01-13 09:35:28
Hi Hyoman,
 
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Please find the answer to your question below:
 
(1) Does Bag number means UPU S9 Identifier?
    (UPU S9  sample : USLAXTUSSELTA7D01202163900075)

Yes, the bag number is described in UPU S9 and is actually refered to as the receptacle number, as it can be a bag, but also some other container, like a tray, or in some instances even an air container.

(2) If so, usually those data is not available except USPS mail. Is it OK to fill Bag Number as zero?

For most receptacles this number should actually be used nowadays. The UPU is supporting an application that is installed in 150+ countries that prints receptacle labels with this standard identifier. It is important to use the identifier, and therefore a 0 will normally not do. Off course if you do not get such a number from the Post, than you have no way of using it.


(3) In most case, there are more than one mail bag under one mail number. Is it allowed to have more than one Bag number under one mail detail?

A bag (receptacle) number is unique, and should therefore only exist once. There are more receptacles in a despatch (identified in fact by the first 20 characters of the receptacle id). Can you please give us more information about the situation you describe so we can provide the best possible answer. 

Best Regards.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:52 PM
Subject: Mail detail Mandatory item

Question regarding Misc.- Mail detail mandatory item especially Bag number.
 
1. Does Bag number means UPU S9 Identifier?
    (UPU S9  sample : USLAXTUSSELTA7D01202163900075)
 
2. If so, usually those data is not available except USPS mail.
    Is it OK to fill Bag Number as zero?
 
3. In most case, there are more than one mail bag under one mail number.
   Is it allowed to have more than one Bag number under one mail detail ?
  
Thanks in advance 
Replied by Hyoman L (Korean Air) on 2011-01-18 20:10:19
Dear Ashley
 
Thanks for kind and detailed reply!
Here is more description regarding question 3.
 
In UPU standard billing document CN51 and CN66, billing unit is dispatch number (usually regarded as mail number). And as you know, there are more receptacles in a dispatch. What I wonder is that if there are 2 receptacles in a dispatch, how many mail detail should be made.
 
One mail detail like
<MailDetail> 
    <MailNumber>0001</MailNumber>
    ...
    <BagNumber>USLAXTUSSELTA7D00001001000075</BagNumber>
<BabNumber>USLAXTUSSELTA7D00001002100083</BagNumber>
<Numberofbags>2</Numberofbags>
</MailDetail>
 
or
 
Seperate Mail detail like

<MailDetail> 
    <MailNumber>0001</MailNumber>
    ...
   <BagNumber>USLAXTUSSELTA7D00001001000075</BagNumber>
   <Numberofbags>2</Numberofbags>
   ...
</MailDetail>
 
<MailDetail> 
    <MailNumber>0001</MailNumber>
    ...
    <BabNumber>USLAXTUSSELTA7D00001002100083</BagNumber>
   <Numberofbags>2</Numberofbags>
</MailDetail>

B/rgds

 
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