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Created by Erik M (SAS) on 2011-07-07 05:44:17 Back to Topics

Downconversion and Inv No

In the IS-Idec the Invoice Number format is 10AN.  In the old Idec the format of the RAM invoice no is 6N. In addition the old Idec has a 'for own use' invoice no which is 8AN.
When downconverting IS will take 6 first positions and populate in Old Idec RAM invoice no and the remaining positions will be populated in Old Idec 'for own use' invoice no. BUT how will Old Idec be populated if the IS-Idec no do have Alfa charachters within the first 6 position e.g.  'JAN1234567'?
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-07-08 17:33:55
Dear Erik,
 
If the first 6 digits contain alpha characters, then the alpha characters will be posted in the first 6 positions.
 
Please note that we have also suggested in the ISPG that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions.
 
Best regards

From:
Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:44 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

In the IS-Idec the Invoice Number format is 10AN.  In the old Idec the format of the RAM invoice no is 6N. In addition the old Idec has a 'for own use' invoice no which is 8AN.
When downconverting IS will take 6 first positions and populate in Old Idec RAM invoice no and the remaining positions will be populated in Old Idec 'for own use' invoice no. BUT how will Old Idec be populated if the IS-Idec no do have Alfa charachters within the first 6 position e.g.  'JAN1234567'?
Replied by Russell F on 2011-07-15 04:25:20
Hello
 
Please could you point me to the appropriate section of ISPG 3.2 which explains this. 
 
I'm getting a bit confused as previously IATA have suggested one approach would be to prefix invoices with P, M, C, etc to make them unique across all invoice streams - but this seems to contradict the below, unless I am getting my wires crossed!!
 
Thanks, Russell (BD)


From:
Posted: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

Dear Erik,
 
If the first 6 digits contain alpha characters, then the alpha characters will be posted in the first 6 positions.
 
Please note that we have also suggested in the ISPG that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions.
 
Best regards

From:
Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:44 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

In the IS-Idec the Invoice Number format is 10AN.  In the old Idec the format of the RAM invoice no is 6N. In addition the old Idec has a 'for own use' invoice no which is 8AN.
When downconverting IS will take 6 first positions and populate in Old Idec RAM invoice no and the remaining positions will be populated in Old Idec 'for own use' invoice no. BUT how will Old Idec be populated if the IS-Idec no do have Alfa charachters within the first 6 position e.g.  'JAN1234567'?
Replied by Sandra K (Lufthansa) on 2011-07-15 06:07:37
Hello
 
the requirement: "that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions" is not part of MISC-process, correct?
Best regards
Sandra


From:
Posted: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:25 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

Hello
 
Please could you point me to the appropriate section of ISPG 3.2 which explains this. 
 
I'm getting a bit confused as previously IATA have suggested one approach would be to prefix invoices with P, M, C, etc to make them unique across all invoice streams - but this seems to contradict the below, unless I am getting my wires crossed!!
 
Thanks, Russell (BD)


From:
Posted: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

Dear Erik,
 
If the first 6 digits contain alpha characters, then the alpha characters will be posted in the first 6 positions.
 
Please note that we have also suggested in the ISPG that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions.
 
Best regards

From:
Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:44 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

In the IS-Idec the Invoice Number format is 10AN.  In the old Idec the format of the RAM invoice no is 6N. In addition the old Idec has a 'for own use' invoice no which is 8AN.
When downconverting IS will take 6 first positions and populate in Old Idec RAM invoice no and the remaining positions will be populated in Old Idec 'for own use' invoice no. BUT how will Old Idec be populated if the IS-Idec no do have Alfa charachters within the first 6 position e.g.  'JAN1234567'?
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-08-08 17:20:34

Hi Sandra,

Yes – this does not apply to Miscellaneous invoices.

 

Hi Russell,

This is to handle the interim period where the old-IDEC format needs to be supported, that is why we suggest carrier to avoid using alpha characters in the first 6 positions. However, we are not enforcing this as we know some carriers will need to use alpha characters in the first 6 positions to differentiate amongst different departments/business units.

 

Best regards

 

From: KRAEMER Sandra [mailto:Sandra.Kraemer@dlh.de]
Posted At: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:08 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Technical Aspects of Migration
Conversation: Downconversion and Inv No
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

 

Hello

 

the requirement: "that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions" is not part of MISC-process, correct?

Best regards

Sandra


From:
Posted: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:25 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

Hello

 

Please could you point me to the appropriate section of ISPG 3.2 which explains this. 

 

I'm getting a bit confused as previously IATA have suggested one approach would be to prefix invoices with P, M, C, etc to make them unique across all invoice streams - but this seems to contradict the below, unless I am getting my wires crossed!!

 

Thanks, Russell (BD)


From:
Posted: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

Dear Erik,

 

If the first 6 digits contain alpha characters, then the alpha characters will be posted in the first 6 positions.

 

Please note that we have also suggested in the ISPG that migrated carriers should not use alpha characters in the first 6 positions.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:44 AM
Subject: Downconversion and Inv No

In the IS-Idec the Invoice Number format is 10AN.  In the old Idec the format of the RAM invoice no is 6N. In addition the old Idec has a 'for own use' invoice no which is 8AN.

When downconverting IS will take 6 first positions and populate in Old Idec RAM invoice no and the remaining positions will be populated in Old Idec 'for own use' invoice no. BUT how will Old Idec be populated if the IS-Idec no do have Alfa charachters within the first 6 position e.g.  'JAN1234567'?

 
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