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Class M IS-XML Certification

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Created by Un C (Malaysia Airlines) on 2011-05-17 20:22:05 Back to Topics

Class M IS-XML Certification

Dear Ashley,
I am creating this is a separate question as there was no response earlier.
 
We are going to have IS-XML files being generated from separate billing systems under category M as the full billing details to populate the mandatory & recommended fields are stored there
e.g. Mail Billing IS-XML will come from the Cargo System, Engineering Billing IS-XML will come from the Engineering System, Ground Handling Billing IS-XML will come from the Ground Handling System
 
For each of these IS-XML files, do we need to get separate certification for each of these files?
If yes, how would we get certification for the Mail Billing File? as under the ISPG, Mail Category only has 2 charge codes (and not 6 as per certification requirements in your response )
 
Thank you
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-05-19 15:31:57

Dear Paik Un,

 

We certify a category regardless of whether or not there are several systems that generate the files.

 

If one of the system is able to create files that pass certification then this is enough from a SIS system point of view - no need to have all the systems to pass certification.

 

However, we would strongly recommend to you (and all other carriers in a similar situation) to send a few invoices from each system generating them through certification. This is for your own benefit, as the development in each of the systems could be different. And if such an invoice then fails IS-Validation in the production environment you might have a substantial amount on risk (which means not in settlement).


If the various systems are not ready at the same time, there is no problem to proceed in this way:

a.     Do sandbox and certification with the first system which is ready and pass certification. Then – when each of the other system is ready:

b.    Send these invoices through Sandbox first - in order to be sure they would not fail validation.

Please note, you can use the Sandbox environment at any time in the future…. Regardless if you have already been certified for this area.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: Class M IS-XML Certification

Dear Ashley,
I am creating this is a separate question as there was no response earlier.
 
We are going to have IS-XML files being generated from separate billing systems under category M as the full billing details to populate the mandatory & recommended fields are stored there
e.g. Mail Billing IS-XML will come from the Cargo System, Engineering Billing IS-XML will come from the Engineering System, Ground Handling Billing IS-XML will come from the Ground Handling System
 
For each of these IS-XML files, do we need to get separate certification for each of these files?
If yes, how would we get certification for the Mail Billing File? as under the ISPG, Mail Category only has 2 charge codes (and not 6 as per certification requirements in your response )
 
Thank you
Replied by Un C (Malaysia Airlines) on 2011-05-24 19:39:29
Dear Ashley,
The added info is much appreciated.
 
However, to expand on our query, we seek clarification on the following
a. For category M, if the IS-XML files from each sub-system is ready at different times, as recommended, we will send the files for testing progressively. Will we be considered SIS certified for category M once the 1st file passes certification i.e. updated in Membership Profile as migrated for M?
 
b. Is we are SIS certified for category M once the 1st file passes certification, we can still submit the balance M invoices via F12 until the rest of the IS-XML files are ready & tested in SIS sandbox. Is this interpretation correct? Is there a time limit (from the 1st file certification) to get all IS-XML files fully tested and cutover to production?
 
c. if the first file ready is for Mail, how will we get certification as Mail only has 1 charge category & 2 charge codes, whereas in one of the responses to an earlier question states that we need at least 1 charge category and 6 charge codes? 
Thank you

From:
Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: Class M IS-XML Certification

Dear Paik Un,

 

We certify a category regardless of whether or not there are several systems that generate the files.

 

If one of the system is able to create files that pass certification then this is enough from a SIS system point of view - no need to have all the systems to pass certification.

 

However, we would strongly recommend to you (and all other carriers in a similar situation) to send a few invoices from each system generating them through certification. This is for your own benefit, as the development in each of the systems could be different. And if such an invoice then fails IS-Validation in the production environment you might have a substantial amount on risk (which means not in settlement).


If the various systems are not ready at the same time, there is no problem to proceed in this way:

a.     Do sandbox and certification with the first system which is ready and pass certification. Then – when each of the other system is ready:

b.    Send these invoices through Sandbox first - in order to be sure they would not fail validation.

Please note, you can use the Sandbox environment at any time in the future…. Regardless if you have already been certified for this area.

 

Best regards


From:
Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: Class M IS-XML Certification

Dear Ashley,
I am creating this is a separate question as there was no response earlier.
 
We are going to have IS-XML files being generated from separate billing systems under category M as the full billing details to populate the mandatory & recommended fields are stored there
e.g. Mail Billing IS-XML will come from the Cargo System, Engineering Billing IS-XML will come from the Engineering System, Ground Handling Billing IS-XML will come from the Ground Handling System
 
For each of these IS-XML files, do we need to get separate certification for each of these files?
If yes, how would we get certification for the Mail Billing File? as under the ISPG, Mail Category only has 2 charge codes (and not 6 as per certification requirements in your response )
 
Thank you
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-05-26 12:07:43

Dear Paik Un,

 

Please find the answers to your questions in blue below:

 

a. For category M, if the IS-XML files from each sub-system is ready at different times, as recommended, we will send the files for testing progressively. Will we be considered SIS certified for category M once the 1st file passes certification i.e. updated in Membership Profile as migrated for M?

 

Yes, as previously mentioned, you will be certified for Misc once the files sent have completed both of the following: (1) met the Test Data Requirements*, and (2) passed the Certification Testing.

 

*The Test Data Requirements for Miscellaneous is a minimum of 20 invoices covering at least 6 different Charge Category-Charge Code combinations, with at least 10 invoices containing more than one Line Item details.

 

If you are a carrier with less than 6 different Charge Category / Charge Code combinations, then please notify SIS Operations prior to your certification test.

 

b. Is we are SIS certified for category M once the 1st file passes certification, we can still submit the balance M invoices via F12 until the rest of the IS-XML files are ready & tested in SIS sandbox. Is this interpretation correct? Is there a time limit (from the 1st file certification) to get all IS-XML files fully tested and cutover to production?

 

Yes – this is correct. If you have generated files which passed Certification from one system, you can still test files generated from the other systems in the Sandbox. Certification Testing is conducted in the same way as Sandbox Testing, with the only difference in the test file naming convention.

 

Meanwhile, you can still use F12 until they are fully migrated - however, only for non-migrated transactions. So you can submit F12 at the same time they are testing of passing certification.

 

There is also no time limit imposed to get all the IS-XML files tested before complete cut-over - however, we would suggest that you complete this within 4 months.

 

c. if the first file ready is for Mail, how will we get certification as Mail only has 1 charge category & 2 charge codes, whereas in one of the responses to an earlier question states that we need at least 1 charge category and 6 charge codes? 

 

As mentioned in part (a), if your Mail test files have passed Certification Testing, you will still need to submit other test files in order to fulfill the Test Data Requirements – i.e. the remaining 4 Charge Category-Charge Code combinations.

 

However, as also mentioned above, if you are a carrier with less than 6 Charge Category-Charge Code combinations, certification can still be done if requested and approved by SIS Operations.

 

Hope this has clarified your questions.

Best regards

 
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