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Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

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Created by Binbin D on 2010-08-23 03:45:44 Back to Topics

Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

As per XML Invoice Standard v2.2, 'BilledWeight' is 6N. Should there be one decimal for Weight amount if it is in KG?
Pls clarify.
Replied by James S on 2010-08-26 08:42:42
Hi.
 
This is "correct" in that it matches the IS-IDEC record structure, and the previous (old) IDEC record structure. The weight is in either KGs or LBs, depending on element 36 in IS-IDEC or KgLbIndicator in IS-XML.
 
If you think that this should be changed, then please advise and I can open a change request for review by the working group.
 

 
Replied by Binbin D (Accounting Centre of Chin) on 2010-08-26 23:32:51
Hi, James
 
We don't use old-IDEC in cargo, neither generate nor receive it. So I don't know what is the old IDEC format for weight.
However, in our system, Cargo Weight has one decimal if it is in KG (if in LB, should not have decimals). 
If I don't remember wrongly, this is the general rule for weight format.  I enclosed a copy of Cargo Service Conference Resolution. It may explain my confusion to some extend.
Expecting your reply. Thanks.

From: SHANNON James
Posted: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:42 AM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

Hi.
 
This is "correct" in that it matches the IS-IDEC record structure, and the previous (old) IDEC record structure. The weight is in either KGs or LBs, depending on element 36 in IS-IDEC or KgLbIndicator in IS-XML.
 
If you think that this should be changed, then please advise and I can open a change request for review by the working group.
 

 
Replied by James S on 2010-08-27 05:24:22
Hi. Ticket #169 opened for review by the relevant WG and other bodies.
Replied by James S on 2010-09-17 14:11:59
Hi, Duan --

This was considered by the project and rejected, so the field will remain unchanged.

James
Replied by Binbin D (Accounting Centre of Chin) on 2010-09-28 01:31:17
Please confirm that SIS won't accept value for Weight field with any decimals? That is, for example, if Weight is 25.5 kg will fail the validation in SIS?


From: IATA
Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

Hi, Duan --

This was considered by the project and rejected, so the field will remain unchanged.

James
Replied by James S on 2010-09-28 05:49:06
That's correct. The field is 6N, so any decimal would cause a validation failure. And there is no implicit decimal, so entering the weight as "255" would be interpreted by the billed carrier as 255 kg.
 
James


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

Please confirm that SIS won't accept value for Weight field with any decimals? That is, for example, if Weight is 25.5 kg will fail the validation in SIS?
Replied by Yuji F (All Nippon Airways) on 2011-02-21 07:01:48
Please tell us which way is SIS policy to edit decimal for BilledWeight?
 
1. Round up to the nearest whole number?
2. Omit the figures after the decimal fractions?
3. Round off ?
 
Yuji



From: IATA
Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:49 AM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

That's correct. The field is 6N, so any decimal would cause a validation failure. And there is no implicit decimal, so entering the weight as "255" would be interpreted by the billed carrier as 255 kg.
 
James


From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

Please confirm that SIS won't accept value for Weight field with any decimals? That is, for example, if Weight is 25.5 kg will fail the validation in SIS?
Replied by Binbin D (Accounting Centre of Chin) on 2011-05-09 20:56:37
I strongly recommend "BilledWeight" as well as other type of weight used in IS-IDEC and IS-XML be with one decimal (for KG) in line with industry standard.


From:
Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:55 PM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

As per XML Invoice Standard v2.2, 'BilledWeight' is 6N. Should there be one decimal for Weight amount if it is in KG?
Pls clarify.
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-05-27 13:31:55
Dear Binbin,
 
As had been discussed with the Pilot PM, KG will stay with the 2 decimal-structure. This does not, however, exclude the use of 1 decimal.
 
Best regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

I strongly recommend "BilledWeight" as well as other type of weight used in IS-IDEC and IS-XML be with one decimal (for KG) in line with industry standard.
Replied by Yuji F (All Nippon Airways) on 2012-02-28 00:47:01
Dear Hoang,
 
In accordance with ISPG v3.2.1,
'BilledWeight' haven't revised and still shown as integer
in the sample IS-XML file.
 
But as per your comment, it seem 1 decimal will be allowed
After all, if weight is 25.5kg can we submit '25.5' or not?
 
If not, is it still the case of validation error?
Moreover how the weight should be edited??
<Round up as '26' or Round down as '25'???>
 
Yuji



From:
Posted: 5/27/2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

Dear Binbin,
 
As had been discussed with the Pilot PM, KG will stay with the 2 decimal-structure. This does not, however, exclude the use of 1 decimal.
 
Best regards

From: Accounting Centre of Chin
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: Attribute of 'BilledWeight' (Cargo Question)

I strongly recommend "BilledWeight" as well as other type of weight used in IS-IDEC and IS-XML be with one decimal (for KG) in line with industry standard.
 
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