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Migration timeline and Impacts for non-migrated airline

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Created by Hui L (Cathay Pacific) on 2011-02-28 19:53:21 Back to Topics

Migration timeline and Impacts for non-migrated airline

Hi,
 
We are planning the project to work on the migration and have the following question, clarification is much appreciated.
 
Scenario - Partner migrated Sept 2011, we are not migrated
 
As a billed party:
 
- receive paper work from migrated partner until Dec 2011
- migrated partner send new format to IATA weekly from Sept 2011
- IATA converts new format to old format
- receives file from IATA in old format weekly
 
As a billing party:
 
- we continue to send file in old format
- migrated partner does not receive new fields as part of the conversion for the first 6 mths (until Mar 2012) - this is correct? if so, does that mean early migrated airlines needs to ensure that they can cater for missing data
- Apr 2012 onwards, non-migrated airline needs to provide new fields by way of entering via IS-WEB, + old format file with existing data
 
Data entry via IS-WEB:
- is there an upload functionality, whereby data can be loaded instead of manually keyed in?
 
Thank you
Xiao Hui Li
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-03-02 13:55:04

Hi,

Please find your request for clarification below:

 

Scenario - Partner migrated Sept 2011, we are not migrated

 

As a non-migrated billed party:

 

- receive paper work from migrated partner until Dec 2011

IATA: currently this is so. However the Revenue Accounting Working Group is reviewing this and it might be that the migrated billing carrier does not have to send any paper invoice from day one.

ACH: from day one of migration the migrated billing carrier will stop sending paper

- migrated partner send new format to IATA weekly from Sept 2011 correct

- IATA converts new format to old format correct; this is called the “Old IDEC down-converted” file (including all the challenges presented in the presentation “Migration and More”

- receives file from IATA in old format weekly NO: the “Old IDEC down-converted” will be provided to the non-migrated carrier MONTHLY. We are still discussing if from ATPCO or IATA.

 

As a non-migrated billing party:

 

- we continue to send file in old format correct; monthly

- migrated partner does not receive new fields as part of the conversion for the first 6 mths (until Mar 2012) - this is correct? if so, does that mean early migrated airlines needs to ensure that they can cater for missing data

Migrated billed party will receive a monthly old IDEC the part in “italic” is not clear to us and hence not correct.

Migrated carriers need to keep the “old IDEC” process in place until the Old IDEC is discontinued (Sep 2012).

 

- Apr 2012 onwards, non-migrated airline needs to provide new fields by way of entering via IS-WEB, + old format file with existing data

Not correct. From first day on (Sep 2011) non-migrated carriers may only respond to SIS billings (prime or RMs) via SIS (if needed, via IS-WEB).

In September 2012 the Old IDEC is discontinued for Pax and Cargo

 

Data entry via IS-WEB:

- is there an upload functionality, whereby data can be loaded instead of manually keyed in?

Pax and Cargo: NO

Miscellaneous: we are currently evaluating this for selected Charge Category and Charge Codes. Information to the industry to follow.

 

I hope this helps.

Best regards


From:
Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:53 PM
Subject: Migration timeline and Impacts for non-migrated airline

Hi,
 
We are planning the project to work on the migration and have the following question, clarification is much appreciated.
 
Scenario - Partner migrated Sept 2011, we are not migrated
 
As a billed party:
 
- receive paper work from migrated partner until Dec 2011
- migrated partner send new format to IATA weekly from Sept 2011
- IATA converts new format to old format
- receives file from IATA in old format weekly
 
As a billing party:
 
- we continue to send file in old format
- migrated partner does not receive new fields as part of the conversion for the first 6 mths (until Mar 2012) - this is correct? if so, does that mean early migrated airlines needs to ensure that they can cater for missing data
- Apr 2012 onwards, non-migrated airline needs to provide new fields by way of entering via IS-WEB, + old format file with existing data
 
Data entry via IS-WEB:
- is there an upload functionality, whereby data can be loaded instead of manually keyed in?
 
Thank you
Xiao Hui Li
 
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