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Created by Shanti D (Air Canada) on 2011-08-23 00:37:10 Back to Topics

Submission of paper invoices after migration

Hi

 

According to the agenda for the RA45 meeting to be held in Miami next month (please see item P8 on page 13), we are not obliged to send paper invoices/supporting attachments to any carrier, be it ICH or ACH, from day-one of our migrating to SIS.

 

However section 2.2 of the Sign-up Guide, while agreeing that we (an ACH airline) will not have to send paper invoices to other ACH airlines from day-one, maintains that we will need to send these to ICH carriers for upto 90 days after migration.

 

Please clarify

 

Regards

Shanti D'Souza

(Air Canada - Cargo)

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-08-30 09:28:11

Hi Shanti,

 

As per the RAM rules, you are still obligated to send paper invoices/supporting attachments to ICH carriers up to 90 days after migration. The ACH, on the other hand, has voted to eliminate this requirement from day one of SIS migration.

 

Discussion to have this requirement eliminated on the ICH side is yet to be discussed at the upcoming RA45 in September.

 

Hope that clarifies.

Best regards

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti [mailto:accracre@hexaware.com]
Posted At: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:37 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi

 

According to the agenda for the RA45 meeting to be held in Miami next month (please see item P8 on page 13), we are not obliged to send paper invoices/supporting attachments to any carrier, be it ICH or ACH, from day-one of our migrating to SIS.

 

However section 2.2 of the Sign-up Guide, while agreeing that we (an ACH airline) will not have to send paper invoices to other ACH airlines from day-one, maintains that we will need to send these to ICH carriers for upto 90 days after migration.

 

Please clarify

 

Regards

Shanti D'Souza

(Air Canada - Cargo)

Replied by Shanti D (Air Canada) on 2011-10-04 15:30:49
Hi Ashley
 
Do you know if any decision has been taken on this issue?
 
Regards
Shanti/AC
 
Replied by Ashley H on 2011-10-04 16:28:54

Hi Shanti,

 

Yes – a decision was reached on this issue and the outcome was communicated in the September bulletin – issue 4. Please refer to the RA45 Highlights, Agenda Item P8 in this bulletin.

 

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti
Posted At: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:31 PM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley

 

Do you know if any decision has been taken on this issue?

 

Regards

Shanti/AC

 

Replied by Shanti D (Air Canada) on 2011-11-21 02:40:09

Hi Ashley

To confirm, this means that when CARGO go-live takes place in Apr 2012, we do not have to send paper invoices to any airline, ICH or ACH, right from day one, right?

Thanks and regards

Shanti/AC

 

 

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-11-21 12:27:09

Hi Shanti,

 

Yes – that’s correct. Once you migrate your Cargo billings, you will no longer be obligated to send paper.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti
Posted At: November-21-11 2:40 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley

To confirm, this means that when CARGO go-live takes place in Apr 2012, we do not have to send paper invoices to any airline, ICH or ACH, right from day one, right?

Thanks and regards

Shanti/AC

 

 

Replied by Zineb A (Royal Air Maroc) on 2011-12-05 05:55:06
Hi Ashley,
 
I would like to be sure of what you confirmed in your last response.
I ll illustrate with an example : carrier A migrate Miscellaneous Category in April 2012 and Cargo category in May 2012.
Is that mean that Carrier A is not obligated to send paper invoices for both Miscelaneous and Cargo Categories ??
In an other topic, we saw that we have 90 days of sending paper invoices to a non sis carriers after Miscellaneous migration ..
 
Thank you in advance.


 

From:
Posted: 11/21/2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

Hi Shanti,

 

Yes – that’s correct. Once you migrate your Cargo billings, you will no longer be obligated to send paper.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti
Posted At: November-21-11 2:40 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley

To confirm, this means that when CARGO go-live takes place in Apr 2012, we do not have to send paper invoices to any airline, ICH or ACH, right from day one, right?

Thanks and regards

Shanti/AC

 

 

Replied by Ashley H on 2011-12-05 16:00:37

Hi Zineb,

 

Not quite. If carrier A migrates Miscellaneous in April 2012, it will still be obligated to send paper for another 90 days after the migration. For Cargo, if carrier A migrates in Jan 2012 or onwards, it can cease the sending of paper from day one of the migration. Before Jan 2012, all carriers are still obligated to send paper until the end of Dec 2011.

 

This is in according with the outcome of the RA45 discussion regarding Chapter A9 (which only pertains to Passenger and Cargo). So for Miscellaneous the 90-day rule still stands.

 

Hope this is clear.

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ASSABBANE zineb
Posted At: December-05-11 5:55 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I would like to be sure of what you confirmed in your last response.

I ll illustrate with an example : carrier A migrate Miscellaneous Category in April 2012 and Cargo category in May 2012.

Is that mean that Carrier A is not obligated to send paper invoices for both Miscelaneous and Cargo Categories ??

In an other topic, we saw that we have 90 days of sending paper invoices to a non sis carriers after Miscellaneous migration ..

 

Thank you in advance.



 


From:
Posted: 11/21/2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

Hi Shanti,

 

Yes – that’s correct. Once you migrate your Cargo billings, you will no longer be obligated to send paper.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti
Posted At: November-21-11 2:40 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley

To confirm, this means that when CARGO go-live takes place in Apr 2012, we do not have to send paper invoices to any airline, ICH or ACH, right from day one, right?

Thanks and regards

Shanti/AC

 

 

Replied by Zineb A (Royal Air Maroc) on 2013-01-08 11:09:41
Hi Ashley,
 
We are migrating into SIS for the class M by the 1/1/2013, we will still be obliged to send paper invoices for Miscellaneous Category ?

Best Regards,
 

From:
Posted: 12/5/2011 4:00 PM
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

Hi Zineb,

 

Not quite. If carrier A migrates Miscellaneous in April 2012, it will still be obligated to send paper for another 90 days after the migration. For Cargo, if carrier A migrates in Jan 2012 or onwards, it can cease the sending of paper from day one of the migration. Before Jan 2012, all carriers are still obligated to send paper until the end of Dec 2011.

 

This is in according with the outcome of the RA45 discussion regarding Chapter A9 (which only pertains to Passenger and Cargo). So for Miscellaneous the 90-day rule still stands.

 

Hope this is clear.

Rgds,

Ashley

 

From: ASSABBANE zineb
Posted At: December-05-11 5:55 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I would like to be sure of what you confirmed in your last response.

I ll illustrate with an example : carrier A migrate Miscellaneous Category in April 2012 and Cargo category in May 2012.

Is that mean that Carrier A is not obligated to send paper invoices for both Miscelaneous and Cargo Categories ??

In an other topic, we saw that we have 90 days of sending paper invoices to a non sis carriers after Miscellaneous migration ..

 

Thank you in advance.



 


From:
Posted: 11/21/2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

Hi Shanti,

 

Yes – that’s correct. Once you migrate your Cargo billings, you will no longer be obligated to send paper.

 

Regards,

Ashley

 

From: DSOUZA Shanti
Posted At: November-21-11 2:40 AM
Posted To: SIS Forums - Requirements & Functionality
Conversation: Submission of paper invoices after migration
Subject: Submission of paper invoices after migration

 

Hi Ashley

To confirm, this means that when CARGO go-live takes place in Apr 2012, we do not have to send paper invoices to any airline, ICH or ACH, right from day one, right?

Thanks and regards

Shanti/AC

 

 

 
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